check this out.
got this bound volume from my dad.. .
Cappytan: "I'm not getting rid of this until my wife is completely awake."
If you do decide to get rid of it I'm willing to accept it.
Unfortunately I have no audio recordings of it but I remember a talk in 1974 where Fred Franz, then vice president of the Watchtower, gave a talk explicitly stating that the end would happen within a few months or years after 1975.
There were many thousands in attendance at that talk.
i am 6th generation.
i have been out for a few years.. back story on the situation:.
i had a co come by while going door-to-door in the neighborhood.
Tell him that they have had 3 major 1914 doctrines that they have changed when history proved them wrong.
Keep it brief and simple.
i use to dream about designing a bathroom that was, well.
crazy.. today, i saw this photo and almost fell over.
obviously somebody else had the same dream!.
Is that Flipper that I see in there?
i first heard of this a couple of years ago, i think it is nasa that is sending people to mars to begin a colony on the red planet.
they will never be allowed to return to earth.
i just saw on the morning news that they have 100 people narrowed down who have volunteered.
apostrate:
"I just saw on the morning news that they have 100 people narrowed down who have volunteered. They may actually leave sometime this Fall and the trip will take about 8 months for them to travel the 200 million miles to get there."
There is no way that any manned trip to Mars will take place this or any other year before the end of this century. The US simply doesn't have the infrastructure in space or on earth to launch such a dedicated mission.
As for Witnesses being on board it would be nice if we could send them all to Mars.
draw any jw's attention to watchtower's history of false predictions and invariably, somewhere down the line of the conversation, the jw will tell you that watchtower never claimed to be an inspired prophet and therefore cannot be accused of being a false prophet.
but is it really true that watchtower has never claimed to be an inspired prophet?.
technically speaking, the answer is yes - i think (if i'm wrong i'd love to see the quote).
They used to refer to themselves as the "Jeremiah Class", the "Ezekiel Class" and so forth. Those were prophets whose authority they want to rub off on them.
What's more, just calling themselves Witnesses means that they're testifying on their god's behalf. Yet the testimony they give is nothing but perjury.
please understand i have nothing against islam.
i have something against alpha muslim men.. i was walking my cute little chihuahua mix in the park the other day when darts off sniffing since i am using a retractable extension leash and i am not minding the fact that he comes up on a muslim family and gets within a foot of them.
the paterfamilias gives me a dirty look and then says something to his wife and i can make out the word "saif" which is arabic for "sword.
my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
Oubliette:
"How do Neandertals figure into the whole Genesis account of Adam and Eve and the concept of a ransom?"
Fantastic point! Bringing Neandertals into the creation account is another monkey wrench that can be thrown at their world view.
Did Neandertals evolve from Adam? Or did they evolve from Noah? Maybe Perry knows?
my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).
he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.
i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .
Again Perry, you did not draw the boundary between 'human' and 'non-human. Here is the list once more:
growing up, i never ever even saw these guys faces, or even knew their names.
all of a sudden they're on my computer screen, tv, and on every other magazine coming out of the watchtower machine.
why all the glamour now?
some jw's on various postingshave asked me was there anything about the jw's i still agree with.
of course there are some things i agree with and some i partially do.
1. political involvement - while i do not agree with totally avoiding anything associated with politics, i agree that many of todays churches are way too involved in trying to sway their constituents beliefs.
